British Baby Names

UK Birth Announcements 24/9/18 - 30/9/18

 

 
A round-up of names from birth announcements announced in British newspapers in the last week.

Sources include a national paper (The Telegraph) and a broad range of local newspapers from across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Sibling names are in brackets. 

 

Boys:

Alfred Michael Errington (Charlotte Eleanor & Lillian Emilia)

Augustine Joseph Mostyn

Cadan Tomos

Charlie Robert

Fergus Richard Christopher (Oscar Charles Bruce & Marguerite Coco Beatrice)

Fred Richard Vyse

Hamish Michael Angus (Amelie Isla, Beatrice Christina & Charlotte Ella)

Henry Brevitt Fletcher 

Jasper Angus Frederick (Oscar André Jack)

Laurence Robin Howel (Clara)

Leo Arthur Louis

Lewis John (Nicola Jane)

Regan

Sam Henry James (Leo Charles Alexander)

 

Girls: 

Amiyah Melanie

Ashleigh Alice

Beatrice Christine Rosemary (Hubert Christopher Geoffrey)

Clara Louise Amelia (Harriet Maya Frances)

Ella Zoe Charlotte (Kasper Johan Robert)

Hannah Elizabeth (Rory John)

Harper

Isabelle (Max)

Ivy Louise

Lara Sophia Bebe

Lyla Mae

Madi Ffion (Erin Cara)

Ottilie Mary Rosamund (Wilfred George Nicholas)

Sienna Frances Sybil

Sophia Isabelle

 

 

Name of the Week: Peyton

 

 

 

Origin:

Peyton is a surname which derives from two English villages named Peyton: one in Suffolk and one in Essex. Both are recorded in the Domesday book of 1086 in the forms Peituna (Suffolk) and Pachenhau (Essex) though the latter may be a transcription error. The name most likely derives from the unknown Anglo-Saxon given name Pæcc combined with tun "farmstead, enclosure." Peyton therefore shares the same etymology as Paxton — a village in Huntingdonshire. Peyton can also count itself among the aristocratic surnames of Britain (albeit a minor one), making it akin to Percy, Stanley, Neville, Harley and Spencer. There have been five baronetcies created for members of the family of Peyton of Peyton Hall in Boxford, Suffolk. All were descended from Thomas Peyton (1418-1484) of Isleham, Sheriff of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire in both 1443 and 1453. Peyton and Payton — alongside Petane, Patten, Paton etc — have also been used to anglicise the Irish surname Ó Peatáin which means "descendant of Peatán." Peatán itself is an Irish diminutive of Patrick.  Patton and Paten were already in use in Britain as diminutive forms of Patrick, and so the surnames Patton, Paten etc share the same etymological link with Ó Peatáin. Peyton and Payton, however, were used simply because of their similar sound.

Usage:

The villages of Peyton are the sources of the surnames Peyton, Payton and Paiton. One of the earliest bearers of the surname was Matthew de Peytun who is recorded in the Court of Fees for Colchester, Essex in 1240. In the same source, a John de Payton is recorded in 1292 and an Edmund Peyton is recorded in London in 1389.  Peyton can be found in use as a given name in small numbers as early as the 16th century in South-East England. The fact that they were used in and around the counties of Suffolk and Essex suggests that the given names were directly influenced by local surnames, often bestowed in honour of a god-parent. Intriguingly, early baptisms can be found for both girls*** and boys*** named Payton/Peyton. Records for Peyton/Payton in the England and Wales Birth Index:   Peyton Payton 1840s: 1850s: 1860s: 1870s: 1880s: 1890s: 1900s: 1910s: 1920s: 1930s: 1940s: 1950s: 1960s: 1970s: 1980s: 1990s: 2 births 4 births 6 births 1 birth 1 birth 0 births 1 birth 3 births 2 births 1 birth 0 births 0 births 0 births 0 births 2 births 147 births 1 birth 1 birth 1 birth 3 births 0 births 0 births 0 births 1 birth 0 births 0 births 1 birth 1 birth 0 births 0 births 0 births 62 births The issue with this data is that it does not give us a clear breakdown of gender (as this is not listed in the index). However, the few middle names recorded are masculine. The census, also, only records Peyton as a masculine first name.  It is only in the 1990s that Peyton and Payton began to be used in greater numbers, and for both boys and girls.  In 1992, the thriller film The Hand that Rocks the Cradle was released, starring Rebecca DeMornay as the psychotic nanny, Peyton Flanders. The film was very successful, and clearly had an effect on the name. Only 4 Peytons were registered from 1988-1992, while 10 Peytons were registered in 1993 alone (most of them with female middle names) and this figure increased over the decade.  click to enlarge Then came One Tree Hill in late 2003, which ran for nine series until 2012, and CSI: NY (from 2006-2009). Both featured female characters named Peyton.  2007 also saw Peyton used as Dwayne Johnson's character's young daughter in The Game Plan.  In 2008, Peyton first moved into the top 1000 for girls at #602 (62 births). The following year it more than doubled in usage when it rose to #336 (132 births). It continued to rise steeply, reaching a peak the next year in 2010 at #254 (198 births). The spelling Payton, though less common, also peaked for girls in 2010 at #521 (77 births).  Both spellings have also seen a modest rise for boys. Peyton went from not ranking at all between 1998 and 2004, to peaking at #1462 (16 births) in 2013. Payton peaked in 2011 at #2613 (7 births). In the US, Peyton entered the top 1000 for girls for the first time in 1992 at #583 and quickly moved up the charts, entering the top 100 in 2008 (at #60) where it has been ever since. In 2017, it ranked #89 in America having peaked at #42 in 2009.  For boys, Peyton entered the top 1000 in 1989 at #991 and rose steadily to a peak of #125 in 2007. It has since declined however to #340.

Famous Bearers:

History: * Peyton Randolph (1721–1775), American politician. * Peyton Gordon (1870–1946), United States federal judge. * Peyton M. Magruder (1911–1982), aircraft designer. Contemporary: * Peyton Reed (born 1964), American director. * Peyton Hayslip (born 1966), American actress. * Peyton Manning (born 1976), American football player. * Payton Haas (born 1979), American actor. * Peyton Sellers (born 1983), American race car driver. * Peyton List (born 1986), American actress.  * Peyton Hillis (born 1986), American football player.  * Peyton Siva (born 1990), American basketball player. * Peyton Thompson (born 1990), American football player. Literature and Other Media: * Peyton Loftis, character in the 1951 novel Lie Down in Darkness. * Peyton Bragg, character in the 1959 novel Alas, Babylon. * Peyton Westlake, character in the 1990 film Darkman. * Peyton Flanders, character in the 1992 film The Hand That Rocks the Cradle. * Peyton Sawyer, character in the television series One Tree Hill. * Peyton Driscoll, character in the television series CSI: NY. * Peyton Kelly, character in the 2007 film The Game Plan. * Peyton Leverett, character in the 2011 film Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure.

Variants:

Payton, Paiton

Pronunciation:

PAY-tən [key]

Possible  diminutives:

Pey, Pait, Petty, Pax

Sibling Names:

Hallie     Aubrey     Miley     Harlow     Autumn     Skyla  Rogan     Cooper     Cody     Lincoln     Grayson     Hudson

Name Lists:

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If you like Peyton you may also like:   Madison, Riley, Paisley, Savannah, Piper, Nevaeh, Regan, Paige, Lacey, Reeva

Thanks to Chamali for requesting this name.

2017 England and Wales Baby Names: Fun Facts and Headlines

 

 

Following Friday's release of the 2017 England and Wales name stats, we've had a look at the top 100 and also the top 1000. Now let's dig a little deeper to see what's been shifting below the surface. 

 

The Numbers:

This table was part of the ONS statistical bulletin which provides information on the number of different names registered to boys and girls and 2017:

Wow! There is only a 3 percent difference between the number of girls given a top 10 name (10%), and girls given a name that was registered only once in 2017 (7%)?

Admittedly, a lot of these "unique" 2017 names will have been hyphenated names, as the ONS data ranks hyphenated names separately. Thus, Olivia-Beau Smith would rank in the 7% "unique" names, whereas Olivia Beau Smith would make up part of the 10% top ten named babies. 

However, it does show an increasing shift towards diversity. Especially that the top 100 now represents less than 50% of all babies born. 

 

Local Authority:

For the first time in 2017, the ONS have released the top baby names in each local authority. You can search them below:

There are some interesting results. David ranks #1 in five local authorities: Corby, Barnet, Brent, Hackney and Harrow. Maryam was top in Tower Hamlets, Newham, Redbridge, Luton and Leicester. In Powys, it's Ffion. 

You can also see a breakdown of all the top 100 boys' and girls' names in an interactive local authority distribution graph here.

 

 

New Names in Wales top 100:

We've seen from headlines that the new names to the top 100 in England and Wales in 2017 were Hunter, Ralph, Aurora, Orla, Edith, Bonnie, Lyla and Hallie.

In England alone, this list is largely the same, but it's the new names to Wales that has me especially fascinated:

Nansi +59*   Gruffydd +70* Elin +58*   Hugo +58* Ariana +57*   Hunter +52* Darcey  +48*   Jude +49* Efa +45*   Albie +48* Eleanor  +39*   Reggie +47* Gwen +34*   Rory +47* Madison +30*   Lincoln +44* Zara +28*   Hudson +36* Eleri +25*   Parker +28* Lili +20*   Hari +21* Bonnie +11*       Darcy +7*

Here we see some traditional Welsh names, "English" staples such as Hugo and Eleanor finally make a mark in Wales and more of a passion for surnames. Hudson, Lincoln and Parker, for example, remain below the top 100 in England. 

 

Hallie: A Name of Two Countries:

Hallie was one of the names to break into the top 100 of England and Wales in 2017. However, when we dig a little deeper, we see that this is a little misleading. 

In fact, Hallie broke into the top 100 of Wales back in 2016 when it ranked #72. In 2017, it saw a 25 place rise to #47. In England, on the other hand, Hallie was #103 in 2017. 

Here we see a perfect example of how combining the statistics for England and Wales can sometimes muddy the picture. 

 

Seasonal Names:

Once again, Poppy and Holly prove to be popular seasonal favourites. 

Poppy, ranked #8 overall, moved up to #3 in November, coinciding with Remembrance Day and the wearing of poppies. 

Holly, ranked #56 overall, moved to #6 in December -- the only month in which it ranked in the top 10. 

Summer moved down 12 places from #74 to #86, and Autumn stayed much the same at #154 only moving down two places. Winter, however, moved up 384 places from #837 (45 births) in 2016 to #453 (97 births) in 2017. 

 

Top Brand New Names:

Now let's move on to the highest-ranking names in 2017 that did not rank at all in the 2016 data -- i.e. it wasn't given to three or more babies in 2016. 

For boys, Kaizer was the highest of these names (up to #1289 with 27 births) followed by Kaif (#1470 with 17 births). 

However, we strictly can't call these names "new" as Kaizer ranked in every year from 2008-2015 and Kaif has ranked from 1997-2015. 

Next in line, however, at #1627 with 15 births, is Bligh. This we can call a genuine "new" name, as it has never ranked in the official data from 1996-2016. 

Bligh is a surname which has been borne by the Earls of Darnley and several other members of the British peerage. Most famously, I think of Captain Bligh in the Mutiny of the Bounty. but there are several other famous bearers. Bligh fits in well with other trending names such as Beau, Bear and Bay. 

 

For girls, the highest-ranking name that did not rank in 2016 was Elizabete at #1995, followed jointly by Harsimran, Lanah, Liyah and Pariza at #2341. As with Kaizer and Kaif, all of these names have ranked before from 1996 to 2015.

In joint third place (#2502), Kataleja,has only ranked once before previously, but the highest strictly "new" name is Zarnish in joint fourth place at #2706 with 9 births. 

Zarnish is a Persian name meaning "flower" which is perhaps partly inspired by Pakistani actress Zarnish Khan.

 

Rising Names:

Arthur (#19) and Luna (#48) win the prize for the names which increased the most overall in birth count while Eissa (#1289) and Zariya (#1911) increased most overall in rank. 

Other names which made notable rises:

Ada: Mabel: Ottilie: Nova: Grayson: Greyson: Elias: Bodhi:

#164 > #114 #210> #162 #310 > #226 #400 > 273 #139 > #109 #647 > #414 #168 > #129 #225 > #156

 
Celebrity and TV have also had an impact with Blake, Bowie, Kit and both Harley and Quinn seeing a rise in 2017. 

British celebrity babies have also served as inspiration: Nellie (Billie Faiers), Valentina (Rochelle & Marvin Humes), Wren (Helen George) and Kit (Wayne & Colleen Rooney) have all risen in 2017. 

 

 

UK Birth Announcements 17/9/18 - 23/9/18

 

 
A round-up of names from birth announcements announced in British newspapers in the last week.

Sources include a national paper (The Telegraph) and a broad range of local newspapers from across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Sibling names are in brackets. 

 

Boys:

Albert William Francis (Theodore George Ivimy)

Barnaby Charles

George Thomas (Eva Elizabeth & Mia Olivia)

Henry John

Henry Philip (Poppy)

Hugo Robin Neale

Jack Kenward

John MacDonald Eric James (Isla Ceitidh Keena & Eryn Aislinn Bain MacDonald)

Joseph Thomas "Joey"

Logan John

Louis George Solomon Gordon

Montgomery Eyton Wolf (Hugo Xavier Forde)

Oscar Christopher

Robert Duncan (William Bruce & Jennifer Vivien Rose "Jenny")

Spencer Jack Bridger

 

Girls: 

Alice Catherine (Evelyn Norah)

Edie Dree (Albie James)

Erin Norah (Samuel Brian "Sam")

Florence Olivia Alma

Inca Martha Daisy (Myrtle Hero Matilda)

Lucy Isabella

Millie Grace Linda (Haiden & Daisy Margaret Jacqueline)

Shaima (Jemeela & Lena)

Winifred Honey Grace

 

 

Top 100 Most Popular Names in England and Wales 2017

 

 

The #1 names in 2017 were Olivia and Oliver once again! For Olivia, this is the second year at the top while Oliver remains #1 for the fifth year running. 

New to the top 100 are Hunter, Ralph, Aurora, Orla, Edith, Bonnie, Lyla and Hallie.

These replaced Aaron, Jasper, Lexi, Zoe, Maddison, Sarah, Felicity and Lydia which fell out of the top 100. 

Albie showed the largest rise for names already in the top 100 for boys, followed by Rory, Bobby, Carter and Roman.

Luna showed the largest rise for names already in the top 100 for girls, followed by Aria, Arabella and Harper.

Hallie and Hunter were the highest rising names overall in 2017's top 100. 

Top 100 Boys' Names 2017			.	Top 100 Girls' Names 2017
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 13 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 86 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 98 100	OLIVER  HARRY  GEORGE  NOAH  JACK  JACOB  LEO  OSCAR  CHARLIE  MUHAMMAD  WILLIAM  ALFIE  HENRY  THOMAS  JOSHUA  FREDDIE  JAMES  ARCHIE  ARTHUR  LOGAN  THEO  ALEXANDER  EDWARD  ISAAC  LUCAS  ETHAN  MAX  JOSEPH  SAMUEL  MOHAMMED  FINLEY  DANIEL  BENJAMIN  HARRISON  SEBASTIAN  ADAM  MASON  THEODORE  TEDDY  DYLAN  ELIJAH  ARLO  RILEY  DAVID  ZACHARY  LOUIE  TOBY  HUGO  REUBEN  JUDE  REGGIE  JAXON  HARLEY  RORY  LUCA  JAKE  ALBIE  JENSON  ALBERT  FRANKIE  TOMMY  CARTER  RONNIE  GABRIEL  BOBBY  HARVEY  MATTHEW  MICHAEL  ELLIOT  STANLEY  JAYDEN  FREDERICK  CHARLES  JACKSON  ROMAN  LUKE  CALEB  HUNTER  MOHAMMAD  ELLIOTT  EZRA  LOUIS  RYAN  BLAKE  LEWIS  DEXTER  OLLIE  NATHAN  ELLIS  JESSE  LIAM  ALEX  KAI  IBRAHIM  TYLER  FINN  AUSTIN  LEON  RALPH  FELIX	0 0 0 +2 -1 -1 +6 2 -2 -2 0 +2 +2 -4 +1 +1 -5 0 +11 +6 +8 -1 0 -4 +2 -7 -2 -6 -5 +1 +4 -4 0 -2 +1 +1 -3 +4 +2 -2 +3 +7 -3 -1 -6 +1 -1 +2 -1 +12 +4 -1 +2 +26 -3 -11 +31 0 +5 +3 -4 +20 +7 +3 +25 -12 -14 -9 -3 -5 -10 +4 -1 +5 +17 -17 +9 +39* -11 -6 +10 -11 -2 -11 -10 -3 -17 -11 0 +4 +6 -8 -6 +2 -17 +4 -12 -6 +14* -1		1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 13 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 86 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 98 100	OLIVIA  AMELIA  ISLA  AVA  EMILY  ISABELLA  MIA  POPPY  ELLA  LILY  SOPHIA  CHARLOTTE  GRACE  EVIE  JESSICA  SOPHIE  ALICE  DAISY  FLORENCE  FREYA  PHOEBE  EVELYN  SIENNA  ISABELLE  IVY  WILLOW  MATILDA  ELSIE  RUBY  SCARLETT  SOFIA  CHLOE  EVA  HARPER  ROSIE  EMILIA  MILLIE  LAYLA  IMOGEN  MAYA  ELIZA  ESME  LOLA  ELIZABETH  ERIN  MAISIE  ARIA  LUNA  LUCY  ELLIE  HARRIET  EMMA  THEA  ELEANOR  PENELOPE  HOLLY  HANNAH  MOLLY  BELLA  ROSE  AMBER  VIOLET  GEORGIA  LILLY  JASMINE  DARCIE  NANCY  ANNABELLE  LOTTIE  ZARA  MARIA  AMELIE  ABIGAIL  MILA  ANNA  MARTHA  GRACIE  MARYAM  ROBYN  AURORA  IRIS  SARA  ARABELLA  BEATRICE  HEIDI  SUMMER  CLARA  ORLA  FRANCESCA  AISHA  JULIA  DARCEY  EDITH  VICTORIA  BONNIE  LYLA  DARCY  HALLIE  LEAH  MEGAN	0 0 +1 +1 -2 0 +3 +5 0 -3 0 0 +2 +2 -7 -2 0 +4 +1 -1 +3 +5 +5 -3 +8 +6 -2 +3 -3 -12 -2 -9 -3 +10 +1 +5 -3 +2 -2 -1 4 -7 -1 -6 +1 +5 +20 +30 -6 -2 -2 1 -4 -7 +8 -4 0 -2 +7 +2 -6 +3 -9 -4 -6 +5 +3 -7 +3 -2 -2 -8 -15 +7 -2 -1 0 +1 +7 +25* +3 +8 +11 -4 -8 -12 +1 +19* -1 -3 +2 -10 +9* -1 +19* +9* 1 +46* 0 -17

       

See also The Top 1000 names in England and Wales, 2017.

 

Below are the individual Top 100 for Wales and for England separately in 2017:

Top 100 Names in Wales				.	Top 100 Names in England
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 20 22 23 23 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 34 36 36 36 39 39 41 42 43 44 44 46 47 48 49 49 49 52 52 54 55 55 57 58 58 60 60 60 63 64 65 65 67 67 69 70 70 70 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 79 81 81 83 83 83 83 83 88 88 88 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 91 100 100 100 100 100 100 100	OLIVER  NOAH  JACOB  GEORGE  THEO  JACK  CHARLIE  LEO  ALFIE  HARRY  OSCAR  LOGAN  WILLIAM  THOMAS  ARCHIE  DYLAN  ISAAC  HARRI  HARRISON  FINLEY  FREDDIE  OSIAN  ARTHUR  JOSHUA  JAMES  LUCAS  MASON  JAXON  JOSEPH  ELIJAH  RILEY  HENRY  OLLIE  ARLO  ETHAN  CARTER  HARLEY  REUBEN  EVAN  MAX  BENJAMIN  TOBY  ALEXANDER  ELIS  JENSON  CALEB  DANIEL  JAKE  BLAKE  SAMUEL  THEODORE  JAC  RHYS  SEBASTIAN  ROWAN  TOMOS  REGGIE  CAI  LOUIE  EZRA  MORGAN  ZACHARY  EDWARD  RORY  HUGO  JAYDEN  ELI  LUCA  TEDDY  ELLIS  IOAN  MACSEN  ROMAN  HARVEY  JACKSON  OWEN  JESSE  HUNTER  ALBIE  ELLIOT  ALEX  TOMMY  CONNOR  DEXTER  FRANKIE  HARI  HUDSON  COLE  ELLIOTT  MUHAMMAD  ADAM  DAVID  GRUFFYDD  JUDE  LINCOLN  PARKER  RYAN  SETH  SONNY  AUSTIN  FINN  JAXSON  LEWIS  LUKE  TOBIAS  TYLER	1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 18 18 21 21 23 24 24 26 27 28 29 30 30 32 33 34 35 35 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 43 45 46 47 48 48 48 51 51 53 54 55 56 56 58 59 59 61 62 63 64 65 65 65 68 68 70 70 70 70 74 74 74 77 77 79 79 79 79 83 84 85 85 85 85 89 90 90 92 93 93 93 96 96 96 96 96 96	OLIVIA  AMELIA  AVA  ISLA  ELLA  EMILY  SOPHIA  EVIE  MIA  POPPY  ISABELLA  ISABELLE  FREYA  LILY  GRACE  WILLOW  RUBY  ARIA  HARPER  PHOEBE  CHARLOTTE  ELSIE  EVELYN  DAISY  ERIN  SCARLETT  FFION  MILLIE  SIENNA  IVY  JESSICA  ROSIE  SEREN  MEGAN  ESME  SOPHIE  LAYLA  ELLIE  ALICE  LOLA  MALI  IMOGEN  SOFIA  THEA  FLORENCE  EVA  HALLIE  BELLA  LOTTIE  MAISIE  HOLLY  MATILDA  ALYS  EMILIA  CHLOE  MILA  MOLLY  ELIZA  AURORA  DARCIE  LILLY  NIA  GRACIE  LEXI  CADI  EIRA  LUNA  AMBER  MARTHA  LOWRI  LUCY  PENELOPE  ROBYN  EFA  ELEANOR  NANCY  HARRIET  MADISON  ELIN  MADDISON  ROSE  VIOLET  NANSI  SUMMER  ARIANA  ELERI  GWEN  HANNAH  DARCEY  ELIZABETH  MAYA  MOLLIE  BROOKE  JASMINE  LILI  BONNIE  DARCY  FAITH  GEORGIA  LACEY  ZARA		1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 42 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 56 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 96 98 99 100	OLIVER  HARRY  GEORGE  NOAH  JACK  JACOB  MUHAMMAD  LEO  OSCAR  CHARLIE  WILLIAM  HENRY  ALFIE  THOMAS  JOSHUA  FREDDIE  JAMES  ARTHUR  ARCHIE  LOGAN  ALEXANDER  EDWARD  THEO  ISAAC  LUCAS  ETHAN  MAX  JOSEPH  SAMUEL  MOHAMMED  DANIEL  BENJAMIN  FINLEY  SEBASTIAN  HARRISON  ADAM  THEODORE  MASON  TEDDY  DYLAN  ELIJAH  ARLO  DAVID  RILEY  ZACHARY  LOUIE  HUGO  JUDE  TOBY  REUBEN  REGGIE  HARLEY  JAXON  RORY  LUCA  ALBIE  JAKE  ALBERT  JENSON  FRANKIE  TOMMY  RONNIE  CARTER  GABRIEL  BOBBY  MATTHEW  HARVEY  MICHAEL  STANLEY  ELLIOT  FREDERICK  CHARLES  JAYDEN  LUKE  JACKSON  MOHAMMAD  ROMAN  ELLIOTT  HUNTER  LOUIS  CALEB  RYAN  EZRA  NATHAN  LEWIS  DEXTER  BLAKE  ELLIS  JESSE  LIAM  OLLIE  ALEX  IBRAHIM  KAI  RALPH  FELIX  TYLER  LEON  FINN  AUSTIN	1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 83 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100	OLIVIA  AMELIA  ISLA  AVA  EMILY  ISABELLA  MIA  POPPY  ELLA  CHARLOTTE  LILY  SOPHIA  GRACE  EVIE  JESSICA  SOPHIE  ALICE  FLORENCE  DAISY  FREYA  PHOEBE  SIENNA  EVELYN  ISABELLE  IVY  MATILDA  WILLOW  ELSIE  CHLOE  SCARLETT  SOFIA  RUBY  EVA  HARPER  EMILIA  ROSIE  MILLIE  LAYLA  MAYA  IMOGEN  ELIZA  ESME  ELIZABETH  LOLA  MAISIE  ERIN  LUNA  LUCY  EMMA  HARRIET  ARIA  ELEANOR  ELLIE  PENELOPE  THEA  HANNAH  HOLLY  MOLLY  BELLA  ROSE  VIOLET  AMBER  GEORGIA  JASMINE  LILLY  ANNABELLE  NANCY  DARCIE  ZARA  MARIA  LOTTIE  AMELIE  ABIGAIL  MILA  ANNA  MARTHA  MARYAM  GRACIE  ROBYN  IRIS  SARA  HEIDI  ARABELLA  AURORA  BEATRICE  ORLA  SUMMER  CLARA  FRANCESCA  AISHA  JULIA  VICTORIA  EDITH  LYLA  DARCEY  BONNIE  DARCY  SARAH  LEAH  FELICITY

In England, Hunter, Albie, Carter and Bobbie were the highest risers for boys, and Luna, Aurora, Orla and Bonnie the highest risers for girls. 

In Wales, Gruffydd, Hugo, Hunter, Jude and Albie and were the highest risers for boys, and Nansi, Elin, Ariana, Darcey and Efa the highest risers for girls. 

 

The statistics on this page are supplied by the Office for National Statistics.
These tables were coded and formatted by me.

Name Help: A Sister for Freya

Hannah is expecting her second daughter who will soon join big sister Freya. Hannah is from the UK and her husband is from Germany, but they currently live in Switzerland. 

Hannah writes: "Our ideal name would work well in English (primarily) and also German. My husband's mum is Tunisian, so something that she can pronounce is also on our list. 

My husband loved Emma before Freya was born but its SOO common here in Switzerland that I just couldn’t... but then again Freya is so common over the UK - but that didn't bother me too much as we live here and I had Freya on my baby name list since I was a child.

We loved Esme but, because we live in Switzerland, we have to watch other meanings and Esme could be pronounced wrongly to then mean “eat more” - potentially a problem. 

 

Also eliminated Clementine because my husband thinks it sounds silly, and Felicity because the German variant Felizitas (my husband is German) isn't as nice."

 

Names on their list:

Alice, Harriet, Matilda, Sophie, Greta, Ivy, Emily 

 

Names they can't use:

Hester, Phoebe, Nadia, Maya, Hattie

 

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At first, I thought that there would be plenty of English-German crossover names to fit your current list. But, the more I looked, the more I realised the challenge that the language barrier poses. English and German share many of the same names, but pronunciation can be very different. Ava, Violet, Eliza, Iris, Martha, Thea were all considered and discarded as options by me for this very reason. 

The good news is that there are names that work in both languages, if you are prepared to bend the rules a little or look outside the box. 

 

NB: Data quoted is from the 2017 Swiss stats, the 2016 England and Wales stats and the 2016 German stats. 

Luna –  A Europe-wide stylish choice which is #59 in Switzerland, #79 in England and Wales and #60 in Germany, making it perfectly accessible in all three countries. It also has a sweet (yet subtle) link to Freya as they are both names of ancient goddesses. 

Aurora –  Another stylish ancient goddess name is the Latin goddess of the dawn. It is is #61 in Switzerland, #105 in England and Wales and #161 in Germany. The only draw back is the slight pronunciation change in German to English, but it isn't too different.

Alba – Speaking of the dawn, how about this stylish pan-European name?  Alba ranks #258 in Switzerland, #248 in England and Wales and also ranks in the German top 500. 

Ella – With a history that goes back to the Middle Ages, sweet and spunky Ella matches Freya in style and -- at #28 -- isn't too popular currently in Switzerland. It is also a top 20 choice in Britain and Germany making it a great pan-European choice. 

Mila – With its sleek Continental vibe, Mila is a name that works across Europe seamlessly. It is #11 in Switzerland, #81 in England and Wales and #8 in Germany

Clara – A chic Roman name which matches the likes of Greta, Alice, Matilda and Emily from your list. Clara ranks #40 in Switzerland, #88 in England and Wales and #17 in Germany.

Amelia – A royal name that sits perfectly between Alice, Matilda and Emily. At #2, it is very popular currently in England and Wales but is a less alarming (yet still fashionable) #32 in Switzerland.

Beatrice – Another princessly name which shares the same sound in English and German. It is #80 in England and Wales and #348 in Switzerland.

Evelyn – A vintage gem with Matilda and Harriet's upright style that is pronounced the same in English and German. It is #21 in England and Wales, #178 in Germany and #382 in Switzerland.

Lydia – Matilda, Emily, Alice, Harriet and Sophie (as Sophy) were all British Georgian favourites. Lovely Latin Lydia also fits this era for both style and substance. It currently ranks #100 in England and Wales and #285 in Switzerland.

Lotta – Charlotte is a lovely queenly name with the same chic style as Alice and Harriet. It is also a top 20 choice in both England and Germany, and #42 in Switzerland. The down side? Charlotte is pronounced differently in German and English which may (perhaps not?) be a sticking point. German short form Lotta [#33 in Germany] has a stylish sound which translates well in Britain -- you could even shorten it to vintage Lottie -- and would also work in Switzerland.

Lilia – A stylish and Continental member of the Lily family which works well in any European country. It currently ranks #281 in Switzerland.

Stella –  At #73 in Switzerland, Stella is a fashionable-but-not-too-common choice which has an easy pronunciation and a great meaning of "star."

Heidi – On the flip side, Heidi -- at #76 in England and Wales -- is a traditional German name which is a fashionable choice in Britain. It ranks #186 in Germany and #404 in Switzerland.

Zara – Sleek Zara (which ultimately derives from an Arabic name meaning "to shine") is a top 100 favourite in England. It is in some use in Germany (#369) though -- like Freya -- it doesn't rank in Switzerland's top 600 (Zahra is at #439, however). 

Ariana – A chic Italian name which derives from the mythological ancient Greek Ariadne, meaning "most pure."  It ranks #103 in Switzerland and #124 in England and Wales.

Elodie – Blending together the sounds and style of Esme and Emily, Elodie is a sweet French name which ranks at #128 in Switzerland and #166 in England and Wales.

Margaux – Another charming French name is stately and queenly Margaux. This spelling, at #155, is the most common currently in Switzerland. Margot is more favoured in Britain, but this is poses pronunciation problems in German where the 't' is enunciated. Margaux forgoes those problems. 

Wildcards:

Maeva – While a rarity in Britain, at #215 in Switzerland, it isn't a totally unusual choice where you live. Popular in France, Maeva is a Tahitian name which means "welcome." 

Eleni – A sweet Greek name which comes from the same route as Helen. It is #272 in Switzerland, and easily pronounced in both English and German. 

 

I hope this has been of use. Good luck with settling on the perfect name!

 

UK Birth Announcements 10/9/18 - 16/9/18

 

 
A round-up of names from birth announcements announced in British newspapers in the last week.

Sources include a national paper (The Telegraph) and a broad range of local newspapers from across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Sibling names are in brackets. 

 

Boys:

Alexander John Raleigh (Edward Patrick Asgill)

Alfred Ellis

Benjamin (James, Josie & Josh)

Caspar Louis (Oliver Rex & Eva Mary)

Finlay Alexander (Max Richard)

Henry Richard Michael (Amelia Clementine)

Hew Alfred William (Maisie Ann Robina & Baxter Malcolm Charles)

Jackson Joseph

Leo Albie (Zac Noah)

Lewis Fraser

Max Robin Wynford

Max Samuel 

Oliver Charlie Gary

Orlando Frederick Charles

Oscar Jack (Evie)

Sebastian Joseph (Amelia Isabella)

Willoughby Oliver Neill (Alexander Fox Neill & Isabel Lyra Tennant)

Zachary Alexander

 

Girls: 

Aliza Maya

Edie Roberta Elizabeth

Eilidh Jane Chrissie (Freya)

Frankie (Alfie & Freddie)

Harper Mai (Ella Rose)

Jenniffer Kathleen

Luna

Lyla Alison

Margot Josephine (Grace Annabel & Robert John "Robbie")

Marley Jae

Poppy Marilyn (Ruby May)

Scarlett, Grace Lucy

Sophie Elizabeth (Emily Rose)

Summer Grace

 

 

 

Name of the Week: Macsen

 

Origin:

Macsen is the Welsh form of the Roman name Maximus – from the Latin maximus "greatest." It was used as cognomen in the Roman Empire: the third name which started life as a nickname and eventually became hereditary, often used much like a surname to distinguish a certain branch of a Roman clan (gens).  Why the 'cs' in Macsen? This is simply because the Welsh language does not contain the letter 'x'. However, Maxen is sometimes found as a anglicised form.  Magnus Maximus The name Macsen is most commonly associated with Magnus Maximus (c.335-388), the Roman Emperor of the Western Empire, who is known as Macsen Wledig (wledig = "lord, king, prince, ruler") in Welsh tradition.  According to historical sources, Magnus Maximus was born in Gallicia, Spain. He cut his teeth early on in the Roman army and became a respected general. By 380, Magnus Maximus was the commander of Roman troops in Britain, defeating the Picts and Scots again in 381.  As Susan Wise Bauer point out: "At first Magnus Maximus posessed only the loyaty of the troops in Britannia: he was, in effect, king of the Britons – despite being a Roman citizen and Spaniard by birth. But it seems likely that he had exercised a king-like power in isolated Britannia for some years."* At this time, three Emperors ruled the Roman Empire: Theodosius I in the East, Valentinian II in Italy (a 12 year old boy) and Gratianus in the West of which Britannia was part. As Gratian became increasingly unpopular, Magnus Maximus' British troops proclaimed him Emperor in 383 and he quickly marched across Europe to confront Gratian's troops, many of whom he won over. Gratian was defeated and Maximus reigned as Western Emperor until he was defeated by Theodosius in 388.  Macsen: Father of the Welsh Nation Magnus Maximus's time and exploits as leader of Britain is remembered several times in Welsh folklore as the figure Macsen Wledig, many of which give him the role of the founding father of several medieval Welsh royal dynasties. John Davies describes him as a "ubiquitous lurker" in the history or mythology of the kingdoms of Wales, as well as in the stories of the saints and Cornish literature.* Gwynfor Evans argues that Macsen is second only to Arthur in Welsh legend* while others go so far as to regard him as the father of the Welsh nation.* "Macsen Wledig’s virtues as a leader and as a warrior were considered a benchmark against which the qualities of future Kings were judged, and it would seem that future royal and noble families drew legitimacy and honour from their claim as his descendants." (Alisdair Menzies*) The most famous account of Macsen is The Dream of Macsen Wledig (Breuddwyd Macsen) which was written in the 11th century and now makes up part of The Mabinogion [a collection of Twelve main tales from Welsh folklore].   According to the legend, Emperor Macsen has a dream in which he is transported over rivers, mountains and valley, finally arriving at a great castle. There he meets the most beautiful woman he has ever beheld, and, as he embraces her, he awakes.  Every night he dreams of her. Consumed with longing, Macsen sends messengers for three years to the three parts of the world to seek the maiden out.  After a year, thirteen of his messengers reach Arvon (modern day Caernarfon) – which perfectly matches Macsen's description – and the Castle of Aber Sain where they meet the beautiful Elen Luyddog (Helen of the Hosts).  When news reaches Macsen, he travels to Wales and immediately marries Elen and remains in Britain for seven years, building roads and castles, and thus becomes the forefather of the Welsh royal houses.

Usage:

Despite Macsen Wledig's fame as the progenitor of several Welsh kingdoms, Macsen itself wasn't used as a given name in the Middle Ages. It does not appear in any of the early royal Welsh houses and didn't see any use in the early modern period. It seems that the name Macsen was too attached to the legendary figure – like Vortigern, Merlin or Lear.  The surname Maxon looks to be from the same source, but it is fact a corruption of Maxton – a place name found in Kent and Roxburghshire.  In fact, Macsen was so rare, that it didn't even see a revival in the late 19th century in Wales, when many legendary Welsh names were revived and vocabulary names were created.  The first Macsen to be registered in the Birth Index of England and Wales 1838-2007 was Macsen Jay [Surname] in 1968 in Lancashire, followed by a Dominic Macsen Geraint [Surname] in 1971 in Hereford, then Macsen Jago [Surname] in 1975 in Lincolnshire. It is interesting to note that these earlier registrations for Macsen were outside of Wales, which perhaps indicates that it was first used as a legendary/historic choice (in the same vein as Guinevere, Isolde, Gawain etc) rather than as a Welsh revival.  The chart below shows births in the Birth Index of England and Wales 1838-2007 with Macsen as a first name, which I have separated into registrations in England and Wales separately. As we can see, Macsen was used more in England and Wales up until the turn of the millennium.   Wales England 1980-85 1986-90 1991-95 1996-00 2001-05 1 3 0 10 23 0 4 7 14 18 Ironically, the teenage character Macsen "Macs" White, who featured in the Welsh language soap Pobol Y Cwm from 2002 to 2004, had a somewhat anachronistic name as the approximate birth year of the character would have been around 1985 when (as we can see from the table above) Macsen was an extremely rare name in Wales. In recent years, Macsen has risen swiftly in England and Wales, as we can see from the chart below: click to enlarge However, most of the births for Macsen in recent years have been in Wales. When the data for England and Wales is separated, we get a very different picture. The following chart shows the regional data for Wales alone from 2010 to 2016: The 2013 regional data is missing, as it was not released by the ONS. However, based on the total number of births of Macsen in that year, I am estimating would have ranked around the #120 mark in Wales that year.  The chart below shows the disparity between the usage of Macsen in Wales and England individually.    Wales England E&W Combined 2014 2015 2016 #77 (44 births) #92 (37 births) #75 (50 births) #1421 (17 births) #1815 (12 births) #1498 (16 births) #583 #682 #565 Macsen looks set to continue to rise within the Welsh top 100, while it remains outside of the top 1000 in England.

Famous Bearers:

History: * Macsen Wledig, Welsh name for Magnus Maximus (c.335-388), Western Roman emperor.  Contemporary: * Macsen Lintz, American actor. Literature and Other Media: * Macsen "Macs" White, character in Welsh soap Pobol y Cwm (2002-04) played by Iwan Rheon.

Variants:

Maxen (Anglicised), Massen (Cornish)

Pronunciation:

MAKS-ən [key]

Possible diminutives:

Mac, Max

Sibling Names:

Seren     Nia     Eleri     Lowri     Cerys     Eira       Cole     Jonah     Rhys     Griffith     Rowan     Caio

Name Lists:

Cool Celtic

 

If you like Macsen you may also like:   Morgan, Jago, Myles, Rhydian, Gethin, Maxwell, Lorcan, Rex, Finlo, Jowan

Thanks to Kristin for requesting this name.  

 

Top 200 Most Popular Names in England and Wales in 1840 - Part 2

 

 

Following on from Top 200 Most Popular Names in England and Wales in 1840 Part 1, here are the same rankings but with different spellings combined. 

For ease I have listed the most common form of the name as the total entry -- e.g. Catherine is listed here for Catherine, Catharine, Cathrine, Katherine and Katharine as it was the most common spelling. 

To see how common the different spellings were, you can check Part 1 for an individual rank for each name.

The top ranks, for the most part, remain unchanged. It is the lower ranks that see the most shift. Overall, there was much more movement with the girls' names than the boys'. The top 100 barely shifts for the boys with the notable exception of Sidney (up from #80 to #66), Morris (#104 to #76) and Feargus (#97 to #121 - thanks to Feargus O'Connor). 

For the girls' top 100, Catherine, Susannah, Eleanor, Betsy, Joanna, Kezia, Thirza, Jessie, Marian, Theresa, Emeline, Bessy and Sabina make noticeable shifts upwards. 
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Combined Spellings for the Top 200 names in England and Wales in 1840: 

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 100 102 103 104 105 105 107 108 108 110 110 112 113 114 115 116 117 117 119 119 119 122 122 124 125 125 127 127 129 129 129 129 129 134 135 135 137 137 139 139 141 142 142 144 144 146 146 148 149 149 149 149 153 153 153 156 157 157 159 160 161 161 161 164 164 166 166 166 166 170 170 170 170 170 175 175 175 178 178 178 178 182 182 182 182 186 187 188 188 188 188 192 193 193 193 193 193 193 193 200 200 200 200 200 200 200

William John Thomas James George Henry Joseph Charles Robert Edward Richard Samuel Alfred Frederick David Edwin Benjamin Albert Francis Daniel Isaac Walter Peter Arthur Stephen Matthew Edmund Abraham Jonathan Philip Michael Christopher Alexander Mark Andrew Hugh Joshua Evan Jesse Josiah Job Lewis Jacob Ralph Reuben Herbert Owen Frank Harry Enoch Tom Eli Jeremiah Elijah Amos Jabez Timothy Luke Moses Anthony Cornelius Patrick Martin Nicholas Aaron Sidney Ebenezer Nathaniel Emanuel Levi Adam Ephraim Allen Griffith Noah Morris Simon Jonas Elias Nathan Oliver Lawrence Solomon Leonard Ellis Morgan Ambrose Rees Simeon Roger Augustus Caleb Abel Isaiah Dennis Rowland Feargus Sam Paul Clement Israel Sampson Edgar Elisha Joel Humphrey Joe Dan Miles Gilbert Horatio Theophilus Zachariah Uriah Archibald Seth Absalom Wilson Ernest Hezekiah Jonah Ben Silas Ezra Bartholomew Llewellyn Bernard Giles Felix Horace Jenkin Robinson Squire Septimus Hiram Wright Vincent Shadrach Harvey Smith Matthias Theodore Valentine Jasper Johnson Cuthbert Enos Walker Adolphus Fred Godfrey Watkin Ezekiel Howell Nehemiah Austin Christian Obadiah Jeffery Hartley Lot Spencer Titus Julius Silvester Esau Harrison Percy Reginald Alban Bryan Donald Lionel Marshall Bennet Oswald Price Barnett Gabriel Watson Zephaniah Cyrus Douglas Jarvis Marmaduke Greenwood Hubert Abram Arnold Cecil Julian Lancelot Abednego Eugene Lister Nelson Percival Silvanus Wilfred Abner Lambert Raymond Rufus Stewart Wallace Willoughby

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 89 91 92 93 94 94 96 97 98 99 100 101 101 103 103 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 117 119 119 121 122 123 123 125 126 126 128 128 130 131 131 131 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 142 144 144 146 147 147 149 150 150 152 152 152 152 152 157 157 159 159 161 161 163 163 163 166 166 166 166 170 170 172 172 174 174 176 176 178 178 178 178 182 182 184 184 184 184 184 189 189 189 189 193 193 195 195 195 195 195 200 200 200 200

Mary Elizabeth Sarah Ann Jane Eliza Emma Hannah Margaret Ellen Harriet Martha Maria Catherine Emily Charlotte Alice Caroline Susannah Louisa Frances Fanny Isabella Rebecca Susan Eleanor Lucy Sophia Esther Amelia Matilda Betsy Rachel Lydia Julia Selina Anna Agnes Ruth Phoebe Grace Betty Clara Nancy Helen Jemima Priscilla Henrietta Dorothy Rhoda Dinah Rosanna Bridget Georgiana Lavinia Hester Christiana Joanna Rosina Rose Kezia Victoria Amy Sally Laura Marianne Barbara Rosa Leah Naomi Rosetta Diana Thirza Edith Mercy Kate Letitia Adelaide Jessie Marian Deborah Ada Augusta Cecilia Jennet Janet Georgina Theresa Miriam Nanny Isabel Abigail Angelina Prudence Emeline Bessy Phillis Sabina Judith Celia Patience Winifred Gwenllian Emila Hephzibah Millicent Annie Mahala Clarissa Dorcas Olive Gwen  Honor Flora Kitty Arabella Levina Mira Lettice Margery Annis Tamar Bertha Charity Juliana Gertrude Pamela Lois Zillah Tabitha Eunice Peggy Tryphena Philippa Faith Thomasin Jenny Cicely Blanche Margaretta Joyce Edna Helena Penelope Joan Drusilla Cordelia Adeline Honora Lowry Lucretia Bethia Constance Euphemia Leonora Zilpha Josephine Temperance Olivia Florence Annette Ursula Amanda Rosamond Sylvia Madeline Norah Salome Theodosia Christina Loveday Clementina Keturah Asenath Melinda May Paulina Allison Dorothea Frederica Violet Bathsheba Philadelphia Agatha Annabella Bella Belinda Dora Elvina Lucinda Magdalen Virtue Mabel Zipporah Annetta Easter Jenefer Louise Marie Comfort Ella Elvira Octavia

                                            Statistics compiled by Eleanor Nickerson at britishbabynames.com
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 Names in bold are those that have moved into the top 200 when spellings are combined. 

 

UK Birth Announcements 3/9/18 - 9/9/18

 

 
A round-up of names from birth announcements announced in British newspapers in the last week.

Sources include a national paper (The Telegraph) and a broad range of local newspapers from across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Sibling names are in brackets. 

 

Boys:

Alexander Fabian

Finn Giacomo (Zachary & Noah)

George Lewis Samuel

James Julius

Joseph Arthur Douglas

Jude Leo 

Kester

Thomas Arthur (Arabella, Georgina and William)

William James

William Leonard (Daniel David)

 

Girls: 

Connie-Mae Marie (Amelia-Grace Elizabeth)

Elsie Florence (Henry James)

Frankie (Alfie & Freddie)

Georgie Anne

Gracie Olive 

Harriot Grace 

Lilah-Lou (Luca)

Lottie May

Luna Iris Monica Lily

Maya Olive (Nina Lidia)

Quinn Joyce (Travis Ernest)

Rosie May Frances (Ryan Timothy James)

Violet Grace (Samuel Augustus Joseph)

 

Twins:

Emilia Alice Susannah & Isabella Estelle Cassandra (Michael John Forrester)